Wednesday, November 3, 2010

"Love does not cause pain"

I thought this was interesting...I put this as my facebook status and it got quite the discussion going, so I thought I would share.


‎"love does not cause pain"
57 minutes ago ·  ·  · 
    • Travis T-Wayne Ritchie But a lack of love does
      54 minutes ago · 
    • Liz Rene indeed.
      53 minutes ago · 
    • Jeff Holst Depends on how long u love someone ;)
      52 minutes ago · 
    • Jack Tutonka Thomas I disagree. Love causes lots of pain. If we eliminated Love out of people there would be a lot less suffering, emotion wise.
      51 minutes ago · 
    • Liz Rene Lol,you would have to explain that one to me Jeff, I think I missed the "hint hint"

      If you eliminate love Jack, what will be left? You aren't seeing the whole picture.
      48 minutes ago · 
    • Travis T-Wayne Ritchie If you eliminate love then you have hate, which causes pain.
      47 minutes ago ·  ·  1 person
    • Jack Tutonka Thomas You have knowledge. you wouldn't have hate or pain, because that's defined by it's opposite (love), which wouldn't exist. You would also have curiosity.
      47 minutes ago · 
    • Liz Rene I disagree, just because we define it that way, doesn't mean it would cease to exist, we might just call pain/hate something else. You have have just about any situation in which love does not exists, and when there is no love in situations, there is always pain or hate.
      44 minutes ago ·  ·  2 people
    • Jaron Sutcliffe Obviously you have never loved
      43 minutes ago · 
    • Liz Rene who me?
      43 minutes ago · 
    • Jeff Holst I was just kidding, Liz. The pain that might appear to come from love is usually associated with one or both people forgetting what love is about. There is no pain in love itself.
      42 minutes ago ·  ·  1 person
    • Liz Rene I agree! or the act is done when the person has stepped out of the spirit of love.
      40 minutes ago · 
    • Jack Tutonka Thomas Obviously all three of you lack understanding of emotions. Love is caused by a release of chemicals within one's brain. you eliminate the need for those chemicals, or the dispersion of those chemicals, and suddenly you don't have love, but you don't have the other extreme too (which is caused by the low level of that chemical). Sure, you'd have physical pain (darn nerve endings), but sadness wouldn't exist. Hate is caused by revulsion - another aspect of brain chemicals :P yay for knowledge.
      39 minutes ago · 
    • Jaron Sutcliffe I meant, the person who said that....not you
      39 minutes ago · 
    • Liz Rene I disagree Jaron, the man has been married 40 yrs :)
      37 minutes ago · 
    • Liz Rene maybe we should just eliminate hate then, give ourselves injections of hormones ;)
      31 minutes ago · 
    • Jack Tutonka Thomas but your body would run ragged from the emotional high all the time if you just injected hormones to increase the level. You'd die from the sheer exhaustion of having your body be set in that mode always. better to take out the dependency and method of hormones all together.
      29 minutes ago · 
    • Liz Rene lol, but since all of this will never happen, maybe you should consider a more realistic rout ;)
      27 minutes ago · 
    • Jack Tutonka Thomas I'm not saying I would do this, I was just providing an example for the discussion, which was over whether or not love causes pain. and it does.
      26 minutes ago · 
    • Liz Rene haha, but if everyone displayed love in every second of their life, would there be pain then? of course no one will do that, so it's impossible, but just for arguments sake.
      22 minutes ago · 
    • Jack Tutonka Thomas yes, there would be pain. I thought I just pointed out how that would destroy the body and thus kill the person?!
      22 minutes ago · 
    • Justin Taylor who says that love is an emotion?
      21 minutes ago · 
    • Jack Tutonka Thomas so says the chemical releases in your brain and body :P
      21 minutes ago · 
    • Justin Taylor is that love or just pleasure?
      20 minutes ago ·  ·  1 person
    • Liz Rene if love is not an emotion what is it?
      19 minutes ago · 
    • Liz Rene I love that one point though Justin
      19 minutes ago · 
    • Jeff Holst jack, you make some interesting points, that's for sure. it would be easier if love were as black & white as you've described.
      18 minutes ago ·  ·  1 person
    • Justin Taylor love is a commitment
      18 minutes ago ·  ·  1 person
    • Liz Rene you make it sound dead saying it that way Justin lol but I agree, part of love is the commitment.
      17 minutes ago · 
    • Jack Tutonka Thomas Of course I haven't taken into consideration the way other chemicals affect the way we love, and haven't addressed the difficulty one would have if they did try to remove those chemicals and hormones. Love is a commitment....of long term internal pleasure.
      17 minutes ago · 
    • Justin Taylor that depends on how you think of it
      16 minutes ago · 
    • Jack Tutonka Thomas but not always, now that I think about it. One can love something that hurts you, say, for instance, loving someone that is dying. huh.
      16 minutes ago · 
    • Jack Tutonka Thomas ‎(p.s. that causes pain)
      15 minutes ago · 
    • Liz Rene I agree, I think love is something deeper then "pleasure"
      15 minutes ago ·  ·  1 person
    • Justin Taylor i agree with you jack ut if you love someone enough you learn that eventually you have to let them go. and just because he/she is gone physically, doesnt mean that they are truly ever gone
      14 minutes ago ·  ·  1 person
    • Jack Tutonka Thomas but it does equal pain though, no? :P which, again, contradicts the quote.
      13 minutes ago · 
    • Justin Taylor and i also thought there was more to live than just "pleasure"
      13 minutes ago · 
    • Justin Taylor ‎*love
      12 minutes ago · 
    • Liz Rene there deff is more to love then that.

      Jack, I bet you would be hard pressed to find another black and white example that contradicts this lol

      I believe the problem is too many people confuse love w/ pleasure.
      12 minutes ago ·  ·  2 people
    • Justin Taylor the word no longer holds its weight in our society
      11 minutes ago ·  ·  1 person
    • Liz Rene here here!
      10 minutes ago · 
    • Justin Taylor it seems to be thrown around as much as curse words nowadays
      8 minutes ago · 
    • Liz Rene It is, it's very sad how people have devalued it.
      5 minutes ago · 
    • Justin Taylor its seems that none of them have ever actually experienced it, and im sure havent
      4 minutes ago · 
    • Liz Rene Ah but everyone will be hurt by those they love at some point...but it's showing love in return so that things can be mended, that's the tough thing which is not a natural thing for us to do, so most people fail to learn to overcome conflict by responding in love.
      a few seconds ago · 

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